Ghost Fitness/Lion's mane/Lion's mane Coffee Four Sigmatic review: is it worth it for lifters?
Lion's mane Coffee Four Sigmatic review: is it worth it for lifters?
The short answer
Climb the equivalence ladder. A cup carries a few hundred milligrams of extract at an unstated ratio; a capsule a stated 300mg of 5:1 extract, 1500mg equivalent. Depending on that ratio, two to six cups equal one capsule, plus a day's caffeine.
- The capsule rung300mg of 5:1 fruiting body extract, labelled 1500mg mushroom equivalent, 13p, caffeine free
- The coffee runga few hundred milligrams of extract per serving; ratio rarely printed; 50p to £1 a serving; a cup's caffeine
- The ladder climbed twiceif the coffee's extract is plain powder, around six cups equal one capsule; if it matches 5:1, around two; the brand's unprinted ratio decides
- What arrives with the rungstwo to six cups' caffeine and £1 to £6 a day to match 13p of capsule
Our brand: the worked example on this page
Futuro Labs Lion's Mane
- 13p a day
- 120 capsules, 1 capsule daily
- Lab tested
- Made in the UK
The top rung, bought on its own: Futuro Labs Lion's Mane on Amazon UK, 1 capsule of 5:1 fruiting body extract labelled 1500mg mushroom equivalent, 120 capsules for £15.49, 120 days at 13p, vegan, UK made, lab tested, caffeine free. Full label breakdown. The ratio as a label fact is on the extract ratio meaning page; the caffeine on the mushroom coffee caffeine page; the two labels glued together on the retailer mushroom coffee page.
The equivalence ladder and its unstated rung: why a cup and a capsule cannot be compared until both are in mushroom equivalent
A branded mushroom coffee, the kind sold in instant sachets and ground tins with lion's mane and usually a second mushroom such as chaga folded into an arabica base, is reviewed by most people on taste and by this site on a ladder, because the question a lifter actually has is how much lion's mane the cup delivers compared with the capsule they could buy instead, and that question cannot be answered by comparing the milligrams printed on each. The sachet prints a few hundred milligrams of lion's mane extract per serving, on current labels, a figure that changes with the brand's reformulations and is read on the day; the capsule prints 300mg of 5:1 fruiting body extract, labelled 1500mg mushroom equivalent. Those two numbers are on different rungs. The capsule's 300mg is an extract at a stated ratio, meaning five grams of dried fruiting body were concentrated into each gram, so 300mg of extract stands for 1500mg of mushroom; the coffee's few hundred milligrams is an extract at a ratio the sachet rarely prints, and an extract with no stated ratio could be anything from a hot-water extract at 8:1, which would make a few hundred milligrams stand for a couple of grams of mushroom, to a dried mushroom powder called an extract, which would make it stand for itself. The ladder's rungs are therefore: milligrams of extract, the ratio, and mushroom equivalent, and the middle rung is the one the coffee leaves blank. The honest reviewer climbs the ladder twice. Climb one assumes the coffee's extract is a plain powder, no concentration, so a serving at a few hundred milligrams delivers a few hundred milligrams of mushroom equivalent, and matching the capsule's 1500mg takes around six cups a day. Climb two assumes the coffee's extract matches the capsule's 5:1, so a serving delivers over a gram of equivalent and matching the capsule takes around two cups. The truth is somewhere between two and six cups a day, and where exactly depends on a number the brand does not print, which is itself the finding: a product that asks to be compared on its mushroom and withholds the one fact that would allow it. The brand can resolve this in a sentence on the sachet, and until it does the reader climbs both ladders and buys on the lower assumption, since a label's silence is read against the product and not for it.
What arrives with every rung, caffeine and price, what the brand's lion's mane is and is not, and the verdict for a lifter
Every rung of the ladder arrives with two passengers the capsule does not carry. The first is caffeine: the coffee is a coffee, with a regular base carrying an ordinary cup's caffeine and the brand's half-caff designs carrying roughly half, so the two to six cups needed to match one capsule's mushroom equivalent carry somewhere between a day's ordinary caffeine and a day that would keep a lifter awake until Thursday; the capsule carries none, and the whole point of putting the mushroom in a capsule is that the caffeine decision stays in the reader's own cup. The second is price: at 50p to £1 a serving, matching one capsule's 13p of mushroom takes £1 to £6 a day of coffee, which is the most expensive route to lion's mane on the market by an order of magnitude, and a route whose extract ratio is unknown, so the lifter may be paying six pounds for a plain powder. What the brand's lion's mane is, read honestly: a real ingredient at a small dose in a coffee that many people like, from a company that was early to the category and writes well about mushrooms, with fruiting body and organic status often stated on its labels, which is to its credit; what it is not is a lion's mane supplement, since the dose per cup sits an order of magnitude below the sixteen-week Japanese trial's 3g a day of powder and below the young-adult pilot's single 1.8g, and no quantity of coffee a person would reasonably drink closes that gap without the caffeine closing their eyes. Lion's mane holds no authorised UK health claim, so no cup, sachet or tin may promise focus or clarity, and a brand's language about functional mornings is marketing in the room the rules leave open; this site describes the studies as studies. The verdict for a lifter is the one every mushroom coffee review on this site reaches, with the ladder as the proof: worth it as a coffee, if the reader likes the taste, has read the declared caffeine and drinks it at an hour that caffeine suits, with the mushroom inside understood as a flavour and a gesture; not worth it as a way to take lion's mane, since the ladder shows two to six cups, a day's caffeine and several pounds to reach one capsule's labelled equivalent on a ratio the brand will not print. The top rung, bought on its own: a stated 5:1 fruiting body extract labelled 1500mg mushroom equivalent per capsule, 120 capsules for £15.49, 120 days at 13p, vegan shell, UK made under GMP and BRC, independently lab tested, caffeine free, taken with whatever coffee the lifter already makes, branded or otherwise.
| The rung | The capsule | The branded coffee | What it means |
|---|---|---|---|
| Milligrams of extract | 300mg | A few hundred milligrams per serving, read on the day | Not comparable yet |
| The ratio | 5:1, stated | Rarely printed | The blank rung; a silence read against the product |
| Mushroom equivalent | 1500mg, labelled | A few hundred milligrams to a couple of grams, depending on the blank | The only rung on which the two can be compared |
| Climb one: coffee as plain powder | One capsule | Around six cups a day | The lower assumption, bought on |
| Climb two: coffee at 5:1 | One capsule | Around two cups a day | The brand's best case, unproven |
| Caffeine on the rungs | None | Two to six cups' worth | The decision the capsule leaves in your own cup |
| Price on the rungs | 13p | £1 to £6 a day | The most expensive route to lion's mane on the market |
| The top rungOurs | A stated 5:1 fruiting body extract, 1500mg equivalent, lab tested, 13p, caffeine free | Bought as coffee, for the coffee | Mushroom from the capsule; caffeine from your cup |
What to check on the label
- Put cup and capsule on the same rung: mushroom equivalent, not milligrams of extract.
- Look for the ratio on the sachet; if it is missing, climb the ladder on the plain-powder assumption.
- Count the caffeine that arrives with the cups needed to match one capsule.
- Count the price: £1 to £6 a day against 13p.
- Buy the coffee as coffee and the mushroom as a stated capsule.
Our brand
The worked example: Futuro Labs Lion's Mane
Futuro Labs Lion's Mane: 1 capsule daily of 5:1 fruiting body extract, labelled 1500mg mushroom equivalent (about 300mg extract), 120 capsules for £15.49, 120 days at 13p a day. Vegan HPMC shell, UK made under GMP and BRC, independently lab tested, caffeine free. Lion's mane holds no authorised UK health claims; this site describes its small studies as studies.
- Extract
- fruiting body, 5:1
- Per capsule
- 1500mg mushroom equivalent
- Serving
- 1 capsule a day
- Bottle
- 120 capsules, 120 days
- Price
- £15.49 (13p a day)
- Capsule
- HPMC vegan shell, size 00
Questions people also ask
How much lion's mane is in Four Sigmatic coffee?
A few hundred milligrams of extract per serving on current labels, read on the day since the brand reformulates, at an extract ratio the sachet rarely prints; without the ratio that figure could stand for a few hundred milligrams of mushroom or a couple of grams, which is why this site climbs the equivalence ladder twice and finds that two to six cups a day would equal one capsule's labelled 1500mg equivalent.
Is Four Sigmatic lion's mane coffee worth it?
As a coffee, if you like it and have read its declared caffeine, yes; as a way to take lion's mane, no, since matching one stated 5:1 capsule's mushroom equivalent takes two to six cups, a day's caffeine and £1 to £6 against 13p, on a ratio the brand does not print; buy the coffee for the coffee and the mushroom as a stated capsule beside it.
Does Four Sigmatic coffee have less caffeine?
Its regular blends carry an ordinary cup's caffeine from the arabica base and its half-caff designs roughly half, with the mushroom adding none and removing none; read the declared milligrams per serving for the blend in your hand, and if you are cutting caffeine buy a decaf rather than a mushroom, since caffeine free is a property of the bean's processing.
What does the extract ratio mean on a lion's mane label?
How many grams of dried mushroom were concentrated into each gram of extract: a 5:1 means five grams in, one gram out, so 300mg of extract stands for 1500mg of mushroom equivalent, and a 10:1 doubles that; a label with no ratio is read as a plain powder, which is why a coffee's few hundred milligrams of unstated extract cannot be compared with a stated capsule until the ratio is known.
Can mushroom coffee replace a lion's mane supplement?
Not at any dose a person would drink: the sixteen-week Japanese trial used 3g a day of powder and the young-adult pilot a single 1.8g, and a cup carries a few hundred milligrams of extract at an unknown ratio, so reaching even one capsule's labelled equivalent takes several cups and their caffeine; lion's mane holds no authorised claim in either form, and the capsule is the route that states its dose.
Sources
- The mushroom coffee category literature: blends of coffee with mushroom extracts carry the base coffee's caffeine and extract doses typically in the low hundreds of milligrams per serving, with tissue and extraction method often unstated. PubMed record
- The mushroom processing literature: hot-water extraction of dried fruiting bodies typically yields on the order of a tenth of the starting mass as dried extract, the basis of the common 8:1 to 12:1 ratio band. PubMed record
- The medicinal mushroom labelling discussion: fruiting body versus mycelium-on-grain, extract ratios and beta-glucan content as the label facts that separate concentrated extracts from diluted powders. PubMed record
- Mori K, Inatomi S, Ouchi K, Azumi Y, Tuchida T. Improving effects of the mushroom Yamabushitake (Hericium erinaceus) on mild cognitive impairment: a double-blind placebo-controlled clinical trial. Phytotherapy Research 2009;23(3):367-372. PubMed record