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Should men over 60 take a collagen supplement?
The short answer
Rank his seventeen pounds by evidence. First, resistance training, free. Second, protein to 1.2 to 1.6g per kilogram, whey at a collagen tub's price. Third, vitamin D through winter. Fourth, creatine at three grams. Fifth, collagen.
- First and secondresistance training, free, serving muscle, bone, balance and joints at once; protein to 1.2 to 1.6g per kilogram with leucine each meal, whey at a collagen tub's price holding the muscle and bone sentences
- Third and fourthvitamin D at ten micrograms through a UK winter, around a pound a month, the one guidance-dose supplement for his age; creatine monohydrate at three grams, a few pounds a month, an authorised claim and trials in older adults beside training
- Fifthcollagen: one trial in older men showing protein helping; skin and bone evidence gathered in women; zero towards his protein target
- The gatethe medicine list to a pharmacist; collagen if wanted after the four above, never instead of the first two
Our brand: the worked example on this page
Futuro Labs Marine Collagen
- 28p a day
- 120 capsules, 2 capsules daily
- Lab tested
- Made in the UK
Fifth on the list, on its true terms: Futuro Labs Marine Collagen on Amazon UK, 2 capsules, 1200mg hydrolysed type 1 marine collagen with 12mg vitamin C at 15% NRV plus zinc, 120 for £16.99, 28p a day, lab tested and UK made, counting for nothing towards his protein target and holding no muscle, bone or skin claim. Full label breakdown. The one trial in older men is on the collagen for older men page; the senior specification on the collagen for men over sixty page; the creatine two-by-two on the creatine and collagen page.
Ranking the money by evidence per pound: the first two lines, which cost almost nothing and do almost everything
Should men over 60 take a collagen supplement is, for most men who ask it, a question about where a limited monthly amount should go, and the honest page answers it that way, by ranking the things a man of sixty can spend on his body by evidence per pound, with the seventeen pounds a tub of collagen costs as the unit, because the ranking answers the question more usefully than a yes or a no and puts collagen where the evidence puts it. First on the list, costing nothing or a gym fee, is resistance training, and the honest page puts it first without hesitation because it is the one intervention that serves every system a man of sixty is worried about at once. It builds and holds muscle against the sarcopenia that is the decade's main physical threat, with the one collagen trial in older men proving the point in both its arms, since the placebo group training three times a week gained muscle and strength too. It loads bone, raising density and reducing the fracture risk that men's under-recognised osteoporosis carries. It trains the balance and reaction that prevent falls, which break the bones. It strengthens the muscles around the knees, hips and shoulders that stabilise the joints and take the load the cartilage would otherwise feel. Two or three sessions a week, progressive, through the main movement patterns, is the prescription, and nothing in a tub approaches it. Second on the list is protein, to around 1.2 to 1.6g per kilogram of body weight a day, higher than the general adult figure because older muscle is anabolically resistant and needs more amino acids, and above all more leucine, around three grams per meal, to switch synthesis on; most men of sixty eat less protein than this and eat it unevenly, with a near-empty breakfast, so the fix is often food, eggs, dairy, fish, meat, soya and pulses spread across the day, and where food falls short a tub of whey protein at the price of a tub of collagen supplies the leucine and the complete profile that collagen, at three percent leucine and no tryptophan, does not. Whey also holds the register's sentences for protein, which contributes to the maintenance of muscle mass and of normal bones, sentences a collagen tub may print as a source of protein by energy and cannot honour in substance. A man of sixty who does the first two lines has done most of what can be done for his muscle, bone, balance and joints, for the price of a gym membership and a change of breakfast.
Lines three and four, where collagen sits, and the gate at the pharmacy
Third on the list is vitamin D, at ten micrograms a day through the UK winter and for anyone rarely outdoors, costing around a pound a month, and it earns its place as the one supplement in the whole picture with a guidance dose for his age: the sun is too low to make vitamin D in skin from October to March, deficiency is common in older adults, and vitamin D holds the register's sentences for the maintenance of normal muscle function and normal bones, the two things lines one and two are building, with a blood test from a doctor if deficiency is suspected and correction at a higher short course if found. Fourth is creatine monohydrate at three grams a day, costing a few pounds a month, and it earns its place on evidence that collagen does not have: an authorised claim to increase physical performance in successive bursts of short-term, high-intensity exercise, decades of trials, and a specific literature in older adults showing greater strength and lean mass gains when creatine is added to resistance training, with a clean safety record at that dose in people with normal kidney function and a kilogram or so of water weight as the reliable side effect; a man on the first line who adds creatine has added the supplement with the best evidence for what the first line is doing. Fifth is collagen, and the honest page places it there rather than off the list because it has something, read correctly. The one collagen trial in older men gave 15g a day or a silica placebo beside twelve weeks of resistance training to around fifty men with sarcopenia and found more fat-free mass and strength with collagen, which shows extra protein helping under-fed men who trained, since no whey arm was run and the baseline intakes were below target, and not that collagen is the protein to choose. The skin elasticity trials and the bone density trial were conducted in women, so a man of sixty's skin and bone are unstudied, with his skin thicker and ageing mostly by sun and his bone served by lines one to three. The joint trials, modest questionnaire gains at around 10g over twelve to twenty-four weeks, apply to his knee as to anyone's, and the pre-loading protocol for a tendon beside a loading programme has its marker and one small outcome trial. Collagen's grams count for nothing towards the protein target on line two, and its honest tub carries vitamin C's and zinc's sentences and no muscle, bone or skin claim. So a man over sixty takes collagen if he wants it, as a claim-free habit at 28p a day or a 10g powder for a joint he is tracking with a diary, after the four lines above are paid for and never instead of the first two, and he shows the whole supplement list to a pharmacist first, since a man of sixty is more likely to be on a statin, an anticoagulant or a blood pressure medicine that some supplements meet. The worked example is fifth on the list, stated on its true terms: two capsules, 1200mg hydrolysed type 1 marine collagen with 12mg vitamin C at 15% of its reference value plus zinc, 120 for £16.99 at 28p a day, lab tested and UK made, counting for nothing towards his protein target, below the 2.5 to 15g research band and holding no claim for the collagen. Should men over sixty take a collagen supplement: after the barbell, the protein, the winter vitamin D and the creatine, if the budget and the inclination remain.
| Rank | The line | Cost per month | The evidence |
|---|---|---|---|
| First | Resistance training, two or three progressive sessions a week | Free or a gym fee | Builds muscle, loads bone, trains balance, stabilises joints; both arms of the one collagen trial in older men proved it |
| Second | Protein to 1.2 to 1.6g per kilogram with around three grams of leucine per meal, from food or whey | Food, or a tub of whey at a collagen tub's price | Overcomes older muscle's anabolic resistance; holds the register's muscle and bone sentences; whey switches synthesis on where collagen does not |
| Third | Vitamin D at ten micrograms a day through a UK winter | Around a pound | The one supplement with a guidance dose for his age; muscle function and bones; a blood test if deficiency is suspected |
| Fourth | Creatine monohydrate at three grams a day | A few pounds | An authorised performance claim; trials in older adults showing added strength and lean mass beside training; clean safety record |
| Fifth | Collagen | Seventeen pounds for 120 capsules; more for powder | One trial in older men showing protein helping under-fed men who trained; skin and bone evidence in women; joint questionnaires; the tendon protocol beside loading; zero towards protein |
| The gate | The whole supplement list to a pharmacist | Free | Statins, anticoagulants and blood pressure medicines meet some supplements; not a collagen-specific problem |
| Never | Collagen instead of lines one or two | Not applicable | No muscle or bone evidence of its own; counts for nothing towards protein |
| The worked exampleOurs | Two capsules, 1200mg marine collagen with 12mg vitamin C plus zinc, 28p a day | Fifth on the list | Below the band; no muscle, bone or skin claim; stated on its true terms |
What to check on the label
- Train first: the free line that does most of the work.
- Eat protein to 1.2 to 1.6g per kilogram: leucine at every meal, whey if food falls short.
- Take vitamin D through winter: the one guidance-dose supplement for his age.
- Add creatine at three grams: the supplement with evidence for what training does.
- Add collagen fifth, if wanted: after the pharmacist has seen the list.
Our brand
The worked example: Futuro Labs Marine Collagen
Futuro Labs Marine Collagen: 2 capsules daily, 1200mg hydrolysed type 1 marine collagen with 12mg vitamin C and 1.5mg zinc (15% NRV each), 120 capsules for £16.99, 60 days at 28p a day, lab-tested, UK GMP made. Slim veggie-shell capsules, odour free. Fish derived: pescatarian, not vegetarian or vegan.
- Collagen per serving
- 1200mg hydrolysed type 1 marine (fish)
- Co-factors
- vitamin C 12mg (15% NRV), zinc 1.5mg (15% NRV)
- Serving
- 2 capsules a day
- Bottle
- 120 capsules, 60 days
- Price
- £16.99 (28p a day)
- Capsule
- slim size 00, veggie shell, odour free
Questions people also ask
What supplements should a man over 60 take?
Ranked by evidence per pound: vitamin D at ten micrograms a day through a UK winter, the one supplement with a guidance dose for his age; whey protein if food falls short of 1.2 to 1.6g per kilogram with leucine at each meal; creatine monohydrate at three grams a day, with an authorised claim and trials in older adults beside training; and collagen fifth, after resistance training and protein, if he wants it.
Is collagen or creatine better for men over 60?
Creatine, by every evidence measure: an authorised performance claim, decades of trials, and a specific literature in older adults showing greater strength and lean mass gains when added to resistance training, at three grams a day with a clean safety record; collagen's one trial in older men showed extra protein helping under-fed men who trained, and collagen does not switch muscle protein synthesis on.
How much protein does a man over 60 need?
Research intakes of around 1.2 to 1.6g per kilogram of body weight a day, above the general adult figure because older muscle responds less to a given dose, spread across three or four meals each with around three grams of leucine from eggs, dairy, fish, meat, soya or whey, with breakfast the usual gap; collagen's grams are not counted because of its low leucine and missing tryptophan.
Does collagen help men over 60 with joints?
As a comfort adjunct at most: the knee osteoarthritis trials at around 10g a day found modest pain and function questionnaire gains at twelve to twenty-four weeks with no cartilage change on imaging, in mixed-sex older groups; the larger levers for his knees are the muscle strength around them from resistance training, body weight and regular movement, with a diary to judge any supplement.
Should a man over 60 check with a pharmacist before taking collagen?
Yes, as for any supplement: collagen itself has no documented drug interaction, but a man of sixty is more likely to be on a statin, an anticoagulant or a blood pressure medicine, some collagen blends carry passengers such as vitamin K or botanicals that meet those, and a pharmacist checks the whole list in a minute with the tub in hand.
Sources
- The collagen peptide and sarcopenia trial: a randomised placebo-controlled study in around fifty older men with sarcopenia gave 15 grams a day of collagen peptides or a silica placebo beside twelve weeks of resistance training and reported greater gains in fat-free mass and strength and greater fat loss in the collagen group, with no whey or complete protein comparator and baseline protein intakes below research targets for older adults, the one collagen trial conducted specifically in older men. PubMed record
- The anabolic resistance literature: muscle in adults over around sixty responds less to a given dose of protein and to training than younger muscle, the age-related blunting that contributes to sarcopenia, and the omega-3 trials in older adults, at around three grams a day for six months in people aged sixty to eighty-five, report a modest increase in thigh muscle volume and strength and a partial restoration of the protein-synthetic response, effects not seen in trained younger adults. PubMed record
- Kreider RB, et al. International Society of Sports Nutrition position stand: safety and efficacy of creatine supplementation in exercise, sport, and medicine. Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition 2017;14:18. PubMed record
- Scientific Advisory Committee on Nutrition. Vitamin D and Health. 2016 (reference nutrient intake 10 micrograms a day for the UK population). https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/sacn-vitamin-d-and-health-report